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60) Andy (Berney Arms Web admin) 
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Gloucestershire Location
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Thursday, 29 September 2005 20:24 Write a comment

Hi All

Well I've just received a response following my email to the Chief Executive of EH which I was requested to post here (see comments below) so you can all see the current situation. It seems like we can expect some progress in 2006 so let's hope that's the case.

Andy

Letter from EH 29/9/2005 Thursday, 29 September 2005 20:26
Dear Mr Barton

Firstly I would like to apologise for any breakdown in communication that has lead to you and your fellow enthusiasts receiving late or poor responses to your e-mail enquiries, English Heritage has been undertaking a complete modernisation reform at the request of the Government over the last three years which has lead to certain areas of responsibility across the country to have become unnecessarily complicated and unfortunately some of your correspondence was lost or misdirected. For future reference I am the Visitor Operations Director responsible for all property related issues and should be addressed regarding any further enquiries you may have. I have been in post for just over a year and full responsibility for the properties was handed over to me some five months ago, my contact details are as follows:

Mr Phil Hackett
Visitor Operations Director
English Heritage
Brooklands
24 Brooklands Avenue
Cambridge
CB2 2BU
01223 582 730

phil.hackett@english-heritage.og.uk

Regarding your concerns relating to the condition of Berney Arms Windmill; English Heritage is responsible for over 400 historic buildings and monuments and has limited resources to deal with all the issues that affect the historic environment of this country, subsequently and unfortunately, budgets and spending need to be programmed very carefully, this is most important when it comes to the repair and maintenance of Windmills as they require a level of expertise that is increasingly rare and also one that requires a considerable amount of lead in time and construction preparation.

It is inexcusable for the web site and site signage to be out of date and this will be resolved immediately, the repair and replacement of the sails is part of a long term consolidation plan which was unfortunately knocked back a couple of years by the unexpected stock failure at Sibsey Trader Windmill in Lincolnshire (an operating mill) and subsequently our limited funds and the increasingly rare millwright expertise available to EH were diverted away from Berney Arms, this was not an easy decision but unfortunately was necessary.

The Berney Arms consolidation repair programme did however continue in areas where the Millwright’s expertise was not required and in the last 18 months has received major investment in terms of overhauling the construction, to date this has entailed extensive works to the mill cap and tower.

It now remains to refit renewed stocks and clamps, and the thoroughly overhauled sails and fantail. This is a significant logistical exercise due to the mills location and the lead in times required by the Millwright.

We currently plan to have these essential elements of the mill re-fitted in the first half of 2006, but are presently in the process of addressing the procurement of this final phase.

Finally could I thank you for writing as it is essential that we know people are as dedicated and passionate about our country’s industrial heritage as you and your colleagues are, it would also be helpful for you to include this correspondence on your website as a (much awaited) response from English Heritage and for you to continue to lobby for improvements in the level of care exercised in this country for the historic environment. Keep up the good work.

Yours sincerely,
Phil Hackett

Visitor Operations Director – East Territory
59) Mark C. T. Healy 
Location:
Birmingham, England Location
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Wednesday, 14 September 2005 00:38 Write a comment

Following Ron's postings regarding the Mill and English Heritage in August, I felt compelled to e-mail EH regarding the matter too. I have had no response to my original e-mail, or the two subsequent mails requesting a response, from English Heritage.
I think more people should 'blitz' English Heritage along the lines that Ron suggests in his previous posts, about the lack of care, maintenance, and progress regarding the upkeep of the mill by the owners; English Heritage.
It's clear to me it seems that either EH do not care about answering such mail, or there is a lacking in their systems administration to check the mailbox on a regular basis. On the EH website there are telephone numbers, maybe its time to be more conventional in approaching EH about the lack of care and time relating to Berney Arms Mill.

Andy (webmaster) Friday, 16 September 2005 15:57
I agree Mark. I've written to EH's Chief Executive so we'll see what happens now.

Mark C. T. Healy Monday, 19 September 2005 19:55
Update: Diane Hunt; Correspondence Assistant at EH has sent me this;
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Berney Arms Mill - Norfolk Broads

Thank you for your recent emails dated 22 August and 1, 8 and 12 of September, regarding the above.

I am sorry to hear that you have not yet received a response. I can confirm that your emails were forwarded to our East of England region on 23 August and again on 1 September for further attention. I have spoken to my colleague, Mr Jeff Dyer, Projects and Facilities Manager, telephone number 01223 582700 who confirms that they will endeavour to contact you with a full response in due course.

Thank you for contacting English Heritage.
Yours sincerely
Diane Hunt
Correspondence Assistant
58) James Dennis 
Location:
Berney Arms Location
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Sunday, 11 September 2005 00:27 Write a comment

Hi Guys, well the clean up and tidy up of Berney Arms station is nearing completion, just the fence to finish painting and the approach path to clear. Due to the extensive make over I have already won 'most outstnding station adopter' by ONE Railway to be presented in October but also have made it to the short list for the national finals of 'outstanding Volunteer' presented by ACORP. I will send you guys some pictures in of the station, also next time spot the new welcome to Berney Arms sign, you cannot miss it.
James

Andy (webmaster) Sunday, 11 September 2005 09:54
Well done James, keep it up. Good to see the station getting a spruce up and look forward to seeing any photos.
57) Ron Smith 
Location:
Portsmouth Location
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Monday, 29 August 2005 21:20 Write a comment

Just to let you all know the EH has not been back to me about the mill!
I think it's time everyone who wants to see the mill back in full working order should speak out and contact EH.

Ill be phoning them sometime this week to see what I can find out.

Andy (Webmaster) Sunday, 4 September 2005 11:23
I agree Ron. Do let us know what the outcome of your call is.
56) Ron Smith 
Location:
Portsmouth Location
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Sunday, 21 August 2005 23:08 Write a comment

emails over the last 4 years from EH.

02 October 2002 13:31
Further to your recent e-mail concerning Berney Arms Windmill in Norfolk I am pleased to be able to confirm that in February 2002 repair and conservation of the mill commenced with the fabrication of four new stocks and sails, which have been completed and are presently in dry store.

Commencement of structural repairs to the cap is expected within the next six weeks and will begin with the removal of the cap from site to a workshop. A temporary roof will be placed on the brick tower of the mill to protect it during the winter months and then the repaired cap will be lifted back into position in Spring 2003.

At the beginning of summer 2003 the tower will be fully scaffolded in preparation for works to repair and re-tar the eroded exterior of the tower and then repairs and conservation will finally be completed at the end of the summer by hanging and commissioning the new sails.

I would like to thank you for your interest in Berney Arms Mill. It is an important feature of the Marsh and until recently its sails were a landmark amongst so many other marsh mills of which only the tower now remains. I hope that perhaps you will be able to find the time to return to Berney Arms in 2004 to see the repaired mill turning under sail once again.
18 August 2004 09:44
55) Ron Smith 
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Portsmouth Location
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Sunday, 21 August 2005 23:04 Write a comment

I sent this email to EH about 2 weeks ago, I've had no reply and the people who were in charge of restoring the mill who I used to speak to are no longer working for EH.
Do EH Give a **** anymore.
Think people should start complaining...

Over the last 3 years I have been in contact with people from English Heritage regarding the Berney arms Windmill in Norfolk.
I had many emails tell me the new sails for the windmill have been ready since 2002, every year they tell me the sails will be put onto the mill in the spring or summer. This has never happened. The Mill now looks derelict, for 6 years the mill has been without sails, it would have been better to leave the old sails on, at least the mill would still be looking like a windmill and not a brick tower.
I would just like to know a date when the mill will be restored back to full working order.
If not anything is to be done with the mill maybe it would be would be a good idea to hand the mill and the new sails over to the Northfolk Windmill Trust, who have been doing some great work on mills that were in a poorer condition than the Berney Arms.

Many Thanks For Your Time

Ron Smith
54) Mike Cullington 
Location:
Woodbridge, Suffolk Location
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Sunday, 7 August 2005 09:17 Write a comment

Came upon your interesting site whilst delving into the history of the old Beccles to Yarmouth stretch of railway. This was after a recent walk along the Waveney that passed the location of the swing bridge near Beccles.
Do you know where there are any photos of the bridge?

Andy (webmaster) Sunday, 7 August 2005 16:54
Hi Mike
The book "Eastern Main Lines - Saxmundham to Yarmouth" by Richard Adderson and Graham Kenworthy, published in 2001 by Middleton Press, ISBN 1-901706-699, contains several pictures of the St. Olaves swing bridge plus many details of the whole line from Beccles.
53) Mark C. T. Healy 
Location:
Birmingham, England Location
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Wednesday, 3 August 2005 02:09 Write a comment

I received a postcard from my parents today who are in their second week on the broads. They report that the Berney Arms "mill is still boarded up and no sails"

They also say that there are not many boats out for this time of year. Could be the weather this summer or the fact that there are dwindling boat yards every year. At least they did not have to deal with a tornado which luckily petered out up the road from me before it reached my road!
52) Coral 
Location:
Mansfield Location
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Sunday, 24 July 2005 02:04 Write a comment

smile Hi, just returned home from a week on the broads, and I have to say the best day we had was at the Berney Arms inn, what a quaint little pub, the hospitality we received was amazing. The food was excellent, and the beer was too. We took our grandchildren with us and all they keep saying is PLEASE CAN WE GO BACK TO THAT PUB PLEASE NAN. Anyway I just want to say if it wasn't for your web site we wouldn't have known it existed, so many many thanks to you and the Berney Arms.
xxx
51) James Dennis 
Location:
Berney Arms Station Adopter Location
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Saturday, 23 July 2005 10:18 Write a comment

Hi Guys, may I introduce myself, I am the station adopter for Berney Arms, normal clean up duties require picking up the odd bit of litter and weeds. I also report directly to One Railway about any problems, e.g the white platform edges have been repainted as soon as they have been reported as fading, recently myself and other helpers have cleared the platforms of weeds and grass, repainted the back fence (still on going as we speak) planted bulbs, cleared the bramble growth at the back and had a major litter pick, when we finish the east side of the fence (past the waiting shelter) we hope to start on the station approach path.
The main request we get is increase the trains at night, sorry under railway health and safety a train cannot call at a totally unlit station during darkness, plus at Berney Arms the platform and crossing also come into the problem with night time boarding (plus it's a request stop - how would the driver see you at night)
As for the most common item picked up in the litter, well apart from fag ends it's shoes or trainers - assume the ones which got wet in the marshes.
Any problems let me know or post it on here and it will get reported ASAP to One Railway if we don't spot it first.
Regards
James

Andy (webmaster) Saturday, 23 July 2005 21:40
Good to see someone is keeping an eye on the place. Well done.
50) Suvvey 
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Sunday, 10 July 2005 22:39 Write a comment

Hi. When asking around about local green lane routes the Berney Arms has cropped up several times in conversation. Checking on the O.S. maps doesn't show a public right of way for vehicles. I am a member of a 4x4 owners club and a public house at the end of a good drive would make the ideal place for local members to meet. But obviously wanted to check the situation with access and I guess parking with yourselves.

Andy Sunday, 10 July 2005 22:49
Hi, I'm pretty sure the track out to the Berney Arms is not a public right of way. Not sure who owns it, it could be the Broads authority or maybe the RSPB nature reserve through which it passes. Some is also in private hands I think. I know that using it has always been discouraged but you could try phoning the pub to find out more.

Bill Maxted Tuesday, 12 July 2005 11:10
There is a footpath and cycle route through the nature reserve but not vehicle access. It forms part of the Wherryman's way beween Reedham and Gt Yarmouth.
49) Bill Maxted 
Location:
loddon Location
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Friday, 8 July 2005 07:29 Write a comment

On behalf of myself and www.the-norfolk-broads.co.uk could I ask if anyone here knows the exact status of the moorings in front of and upstream of the Berney Arms Mill? Is this also owned by English Heritage or is the entire frontage owned by the pub? I ask because the pub are it seems attempting to only allow mooring for their patrons whilst not everyone going to look at the mill necessarily wishes a meal or a drink eek!

Really liked the old photos brought back many memories. Would be nice to have some of the other parts of the old broadland railway system relics of which still exist. (Haddiscoe High Level bridge and station for example)

Dave Rogers Friday, 8 July 2005 17:57
There are some signs that The Berney Inn have put out from the pub leading in the direction of the mill but these stop well short of the Berney Mill. There are no signs outside the Berney Mill and upstream of it and there is plenty of room for boats to moor.

Andy Sunday, 10 July 2005 22:52
I am considering adding further railway photos from the GY - Lowestoft route and possibly as far as Hadiscoe but I don't intend to expand the area covered too much.
48) William Berney 
Location:
n/a Location
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Saturday, 25 June 2005 12:18 Write a comment

Please arrange for more trains to call at Berney Arms railway station during the morning and evening rush hours.
47) Ian Martin 
Location:
Lowestoft Location
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Monday, 13 June 2005 23:42 Write a comment

Went for a walk across the Halvergate Marshes on Sunday, When I reached the Berney Arms I was disappointed to see that the sails still have not been replaced, and the doors padlocked. Any ideas on when the sails will be replaced, as it is already 4 years overdue!! What a shame frown

Grace and David Rogers Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:58
We visited the Berney this weekend and as you say there are still no signs that the sails will be returned onto the Berney mill. The tar finish to the outside of the mill that was applied about a year ago is already falling off due to inadequate preparation. It seems that mill is in need of urgent professional repair and is being let down badly by those responsible for its upkeep. On a more positive note the Berney pub is still going strong and the duck on the menu deserves a try.
Dave and Grace Rogers , Eastern Dawn.
46) Sheila Hutchinson 
Location:
Norfolk Location
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Monday, 13 June 2005 23:13 Write a comment

Still no sign of the sails on the Berney Mill and the mill remains closed to the public. It can only be opened for parties by arrangement by ringing 08453010006 or 01493857900.
The 5th Berney Arms Reunion will be held at The Berney Arms pub on Sunday 4th September at 12 noon. Everyone who is interested will be made welcome.
45) Mark C. T. Healy 
Location:
Birmingham, England Location
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Saturday, 28 May 2005 16:11 Write a comment

Shorebase has 9 more aerial photos taken 26/05/05. One of them shows the still sail-less Berney Arms mill.

The homepage is:
#@*%!://www.shorebase.co.uk/home/home.asp
44) Mark C. T. Healy 
Location:
Birmingham, England Location
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Wednesday, 25 May 2005 14:27 Write a comment

The BBC Norfolk Broads Webcam is now back online. This season it's on a Broads Authority launch based on the River Bure.

The #@*%! is:
#@*%!://www.bbc.co.uk/norfolk/content/webcams/webcam_mobile_webcam.shtml
43) Brian 
Location:
Letchworth Garden City Location
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Monday, 2 May 2005 21:30 Write a comment

An excellent site. I used to go to Gt Yarmouth for childhood hols in the '50's & '60's. I found the railways fascinating then, and still do today. The pictures brought back many happy memories, especially walking along beside the long wall of the Beach Station, wondering when it was ever going to end! I must get back there one day, but I'm afraid that seeing the place again will ruin some of the memories that are locked away.
42) rob richards 
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Wednesday, 27 April 2005 13:42 Write a comment

smileExcellent web site. I really enjoyed the railway photos in particular.
41) Alistair M. Taylor 
Location:
London Location
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Saturday, 23 April 2005 13:14 Write a comment

smile
Just checking out my 19 century roots in Great Yarmouth when I stumbled across your site. Thrilled..... I will surely give the pub a visit next time !

Cheers Al
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